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doctors, too. i think putting my face out there with the words, not just slipped my making it something that you just hear about like i'm a real person over the last year, whether you're hearing from elected officials or people like kate cox and hadley duvall there it has never been lost on me or my incredibly hardworking team here at the source and they are incredibly hard working that's the reason we keep asking these questions, no matter how many times we have to ask, is because of you, our viewers at home that is why every show after every interview and segment, we ended by saying, thank you for joining us every night. we really do mean it. thank you again for joining us. thank you for joining us for the last sure. we hope you'll continue to join us going forward cnn newsnight with abby phillip starts now how. much longer can

joe biden say there's nothing to see here? >> that's tonight on news good evening. i'm abby philip in new york in moles my first cnn interview with michigan governor gretchen whitmer and her revealing answer on what she thinks joe biden can do to help settle questions about his mental fitness but first tonight, joe biden doesn't have a math problem, at least not yet, but his status as the now and future nominee suddenly looks up in the air again yes, that is a george clooney reference and yes, that is because the hollywood a-lister and democrat fundraise fundraising stud horse for donors is now saying that biden should quit the race. clooney's public position matters but nancy pelosi's matters even more this morning, she says or she would not say

clearly a yes to this question of that you would want every single democrat up and down the ballot to say, of course, too do you want him to run i want him to do whatever he decides to do. >> and that's that's the way it is add to that and unwelcome first, if you are sitting in delaware this evening, peter welch, the democratic senator from vermont, became the first member of the upper chamber to publicly put his name behind demand for biden to get out of the race another clooney reference. >> but tonight, you can news is courtesy of carl bernstein. he hints that the needle that is pointing to biden's future may now be tilting ever so slightly toward one where he is no longer on the ballot in november bernstein reported earlier this evening that schumer the top democrat in the senate, is trying to cobble together biden's friends in congress to meet with the biden family. he apparently wants an

audience to make sure that biden knows the pitfalls i've continuing to pursue the presidency he's frustrated with the whole situation, especially the way the white house, the way biden, the way the first family has dug in and has said that there's no more discussion of this is solution which he sought he had a real shot at doing over the weekend was to convene a meeting probably today or yesterday of three or four people who love joe biden in the senate, in the house, among his friends, meet with biden, not ambushed him, but have a full discussion with biden and joining me tonight is michigan's democratic governor, gretchen whitmer. >> she has a new book out, true gretch, what i've learned about life, leadership and everything in between, governor. thank you very much for joining us. we're going to talk about this book in just a couple of minutes. i

wanted to though, talk to you about some news tonight. carl bernstein, our colleague here at cnn, has some new reporting about president biden he says that the senate's top democrat, chuck schumer he, you know, addressing some of the frustration from within his among his colleagues in the senate, there planning to put together a group of senators to go to the white house and talk to president biden about hit this race. the president and his family about whether or not he should even stay in the race. do you think president biden should take that meeting while listen, here's what i do know. i know that right now. we have a choice between donald trump for four years, which would be destruction of our economy, of our individual rights of our ability to grow manufacturing, which is all happened under joe biden. and joe biden until joe biden says otherwise he is our candidate and that's why try to remind people this was a high-stakes moment. i don't know what is

going to happen in terms of the senate the u.s. senate caucus. i'm trust that whatever conversations are happening at the end of the day, the decision is the president's and he's communicated, i think pretty clearly he doesn't intend to do anything other than bron for real point. there is this disconnect that is out there. i want to play for you what that sounded like to the american people the bottom line here is that we're not going anywhere. i am not going anywhere. >> it's up to the president to subside if he is going to run. we're all encouraging him to make that decision because time is running short. >> obviously, speaker emerita nancy pelosi, she's nudging president biden to reconsider what does it say to you that so many democrats, especially on capitol hill, do not believe that this issue is settled well, it says to me that we are spending a lot of energy, not on donald trump and the

existential threat before us. and that gives me a great deal of concern. i governed the state of michigan. it is a fantastic state i am proud to be a michigander, but i also know this we are deeply diverse state of political opinion, of ethnicity race, and we are a state that is going to make a huge impact on the outcome of this election. i got a lot of work to do at home. want to make sure people know what democrats stand for, what biden has delivered and like i said, the only one who makes this decision is president biden. he has communicated he is in this race. he is going to see it through and he's ready for a second term and until and unless that changes, i'm all for you ahead. you think that there's a possibility he could change his mind? i don't i haven't heard nothing to the contrary. i understand that there are people with different opinions. i understand that some are playing fantasy football and want to just pick a couple of random leaders that they like across the country and design a ticket that's just not how this works. we have a president who has gotten

the nomination, who's earned it, who is going barreling toward convention? and unless he decides something differently, this is the field and this is the high stakes weren't. so i got to ask you about the other big splash today, which was the actor george clooney. he just a couple of weeks ago, held a fundraiser for the president. he saw up close and personal and this is what he wrote in his op-ed. it is devastating to say it, but joe biden, i was with three weeks ago at a fundraiser is not the joe big effing deal. biden of 2010. he wasn't even the joe biden of 2020. he was the same man. we all witnessed at the debate and clooney is now saying, the president biden should step aside. i mean, i think many of these people, they've been around politics for a long time. they know that this is not a fantasy or a game, but they do think that the moment is now if there's going to be a change to make that change, do you think he's wrong? >> i understand that people are rattled. i understand that there's a high-stakes election that we are on the cusp of. i understand that people want to make sure that we win this thing. and i think that's what unites us all. we understand

the real threat of donald trump. but i think what people sometimes lose sight of is all the things that joe biden has been able to accomplish the work that we're doing, fixing the roads and bridges and getting people connected to the internet. the onshoring of supply chains and the growth in many factoring good paying jobs, bringing down the cost of insulin and women's fundamental rights are all on the ballot. and that's why i'm not going to get pulled off of my my mission, which is to make sure that michigan is on the right side of this election. and that we elect joe biden for a second term you talk in this book about the importance of making people feel heard, meeting people where they are not shutting down dissent, right president biden, he's talked about the opposition to him remaining on the ballot as an elite conversation, is that the way that he should be approaching these questions about his fitness well, in the

book, i talk about showing up in every community and valuing the voter in the rural part of michigan, just like i do in downtown big cities. >> but every voice matters and listening to what people have to say is, i think a real superpower that i have become a better governor and a better leader because i listened to the people i serve. i know that president biden cares. he's a deeply empathetic man. i think it's it's a anxious moment for everybody. but at the end of the day we have got to make sure that people of this country understand what the stakes are and what the receipts are. and president biden and vice president harris are showing up with real receipts, making people's lives better where should he do to shut this conversation down? should he is some people have suggested just go ahead and take a cognitive test and demand that donald trump do the same i don't think that it hurt to be honest at the end of the day, you know, you think that he should take a compton. >> i don't think it would hurt, but here's the thing. there's a chapter in my book,

i talk about being a happy warrior. i talk about in a debate, i was encouraged to never forget that the person who looks like they're having the most fond wins certainly the first presidential debate was, was not a great success for president biden but he is the happier he shows up every day and fights for the american public he cares about other people more than he cares about himself. and that's precisely why i think this moment where we have donald trump, who's been convicted of 34 felonies, who cares only about donald trump? we can't lose sight of how high the stakes are. we have a field and unless one person, joe biden makes an alternative decision, this is the field and we've got to go, well, let's talk about some of the consequences here. reproductive rights as such, a huge issue for you, and it's a personal one as well. you talk in the book about your decision to share your sexual assault in the legislature in your state

of michigan as you were fighting back against an anti-abortion bill right now, the republicans released their platform. they're about to meet next week. they barely make mention of abortion. trump said today that he's scrubbed quote, game bands from the document. he said he is targeting, quote, moderates. but he says that he's aiming at common sense policies do you by that hell, no, i don't by that, this is a guy who's had 18 different positions on abortion ten years ago when i reveal that i had been raped when i was in college, i was dealing with a republican dominated legislature who wanted to make it harder for women to access reproductive health care. they wouldn't listen to a woman much less actual medical provider. they were jamming this through the legislature and i got to the mic because it was the only chance so i had to try to beat it back. of course, it was not able to get that done because i was in the minority and republicans have been on a crusade for decades to take

this right away. this has been true under donald trump, we would not even be having this conversation, abby, but for the three people he put on the supreme court who lied to congress, betrayed their oath of office. donald trump has bragged about that. the next logical thing that could happen as this mifepristone case comes back, and this court that donald trump put there rips away, the ability to get a medical abortion and ivf and then surrogacy and then stem cell research. i mean that is the natural extension people thought that i was overreacting before when ruth bader ginsburg died and i started the process of making sure we were ready in michigan. here we are now. this is still very much at risk for all americans and that's why this has got to be a big part of this conversation going into this election. if you want to have the right to make your own decision about your body and your health care. we got to reelect joe joe bide the issue right now. that is concerning

so many democrats is a lack of enthusiasm for the democratic ticket that is dragging president biden down some people say, why not elevate? vice president harris, who has really champion this issue and put her at the top of the ticket without some of the baggage that president biden might have do you think that there is wisdom in that potentially, i think vice president harris has been an incredible advocate on behalf of women's reproductive freedom. she came to michigan. we held reproductive roundtable it was like like i talk about in the book. actually sit with people across from them, listened to him empower voices and make sure that people understand who is fighting for their rights. she's been a terrific advocate on that issue. and so many others. i do think that she adds a lot of strength. so the ticket but you don't necessarily think that if they were in a position to replace president biden do you think that she would be the best person to be at the top of that. >> she is the number two leader in this country for a reason. i

don't believe that we're going to be in a situation where it's not joe biden at the top of the ticket, but she is his right hand for very good reason. i want to talk about michigan. obviously this is super important. your state, you know, well, the new york times is reporting tonight that congresswoman elissa slotkin, she is running in that senate race. there. she told donors recently but she sees president trump ahead of president biden in that state. she also said tonight to cnn that the debate did not help her in her race she right about the state of the race. >> well, i mean, it was allows you to bait. i think we all agree on that. president biden agrees on that michigan is always going to be a close race, always going to be. do you think biden's down right now while i tell people all the time, we're not going to lose our minds over being down two points we're not going to celebrate when we're up two points. this is going to be in the margin of error. all the way through, no matter who the standard bearers are, that is what happens in michigan, and that's why we've got stabbed bring in our hands and roll up

our sleeves and do the work necessary. how much harder is it today for president biden for an elissa slotkin to win the state of michigan and what needs to be done about it? yeah, i think i think it's always going to have been a tough race. i was saying this six months ago, same as six years ago. that is what happens in michigan. we are a beautifully diverse state. we are a microcosm of the country that's why all eyes are going to be on michigan. once again and i think we've got a buckle up up and get ready the way that we won by 11 points in this closely divided state was by showing up in every community, every person is important, every vote matters doesn't mean we're always going to find common ground and agree but we got to show up, right with people every single day and that's what that's what i have done as governor and that's what we're going to do in this campaign. i have to ask you about the really terrifying plot to kill you, to kidnap you, that unfolded in your

state. you talk in the book about how it's really changed. it's changed your family affected your children, your daughters, you walk into a van, scan the room, looking for the exits i imagine that's got to be incredibly painful and hard to move forward from. but there is this prospect that donald trump could be reelected and could seek retribution. are you worried that you would be on his list for retribution? well, i'm told he keeps a list and it's all very long list and it has republicans who've defected from him and probably a lot of democrats on it too. i think that that should tell you everything you need to know about this man. other than fact that he's a convicted felon who hundreds of thousands of americans died on his watch or economy was struggling when he left office. we know that this is a person who is the one that incited all the violence that played out at our capitol on january 6 and now they're trying to pretend like that, don't even have worried that that will follow you. again, i

think everyone who is critical or has a mind of their own should be concerned about someone who is willing to abuse power and misuse that, especially with this new supreme court ruling on immunity, this could be a very scary time if donald trump is back in the white house michigan governor gretchen whitmer. >> thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. the book is called true gretch. it's outright now thank you very much. thank you and joining me now to discuss everything we just heard scott jennings, jamal simmons, and navarro, and coleman hughes a cognitive test. >> she says it's a good idea joe biden needs a way to shut down all of this noise that's going on, right? i think he thought that if he kept doing events that we shut it down, i think he thought that if he sent that letter that he did to congress earlier in the week, that would shut it down. it hasn't shut it down. there's going to be a way to shut this

down because this is unsustainable. we cannot continue in this breathless reporting about joe biden's every word and splicing everything he says and does. so i think both candidates should take that was the question as well. >> i mean, it would probably be a smart but i think there should be a i think we need to tax returns for anybody running for like for like ten years for anybody running for president? and i think we should know that they're not capable or mentally incapable and insane. it would be a good idea to make it a law and then channel four for both and as pointed, joe biden has not shut this down. i mean, the governor suggested that he has and he said he's going to stay in the race, but this just keeps coming back. >> know it's a it's been an issue and in my view for at least 18 months, really, if you look at him on camera and after the debate everyone saw what they saw and now we were all watching it at once. and that's why the dam broke with

a debates. so i think absolutely if he wants to make a statement, he should absolutely do a cognitive test with multiple witnesses of from both parties in the room, the longer he doesn't do it, the more he is saying to people, i'm afraid to do it because i'm afraid of the results of a cognitive test with multiple witnesses while the test and the media hasn't needed to his issue is not a one off cognitive test because issue is, is that super old he is an obvious decline from when he ran in 2020 and from when he served as vice president and no i mean, no test is going to reverse what we've seen. the reason he's having so much trouble with all this is because he spent his entire career getting used to his own largely fabricated personal narrative being successfully covered up. this is disorienting for him. this is the first time in his life that his personal narrative is not

being covered up either by democrats or by media looking the other way, this is the first time we've seen on full display the truth, the truth of joe biden they have covered this for kula. so long and it's a scandal. it's got when you talk about covering up personal narrative, are you talking about the loss of his wife and daughter? are you talking about the loss of his son to cancer? are you saying joe biden has never made up a story about but i'm saying his personal narrative of the narrative about a man who has been steeped and pains tipton things that most of us would struggle to get through, who kept battling away? he had it kept showing up for people, kept fighting for the middle class who grew up in small towns, scranton, that's his personal narrative. that's what it is that attracts people to joe biden has been a thing that's sort of held him up the entire time in his political career. and i think it's kind of like not right for anybody to say. you think it's time covering that up you think? honestly, it will for his life, first of all, he has told lie after lie after lie about his

life. >> anything that was a lie, but the biggest lie, just anything that was a lie. do you want to go through and rehash all the stories he is talking about but here's what happened. >> here. but here's the deal say this, you support donald trump. this is like i haven't announced who monday in anybody i give all my joe biden because if the other choice is donald trump, that's a binary choice. but okay, the other choices are guy who began lying about how to dodge the draft because of made-up bone spurs. he doesn't even remember which he had or what level of lying is acceptable. this is what i don't get about about this biden versus trump lying debate, where apparently if you tell one less lie than donald trump, that's good enough. is that the bar you want to sit? this is a scandal. what has been covered up about biden for the last three-and-a-half years or more by his staff? by democrats. look at this, george clooney op-ed. well, three weeks ago we all saw why did

anybody say anything that night? it's not that they care about the office of the president. it's that they care, they're losing. that's why it's you got it all wrong when i think this is not an administration that has lied, it has not. you want to laugh or you know, but us appointed administration that light up at the size of the crowd at the inauguration, you are slice that they've never lot of confusing administration i think part of the reason that this hasn't been shut down, frankly, it's because there's been breathless and somewhat reckless reporting by the jobless you're saying that journalists are wrong? >> yes, i do. i think that was juror no. no. let me give you examples. i think that when journalists jump on the george stephanopoulos interview and talk about how mark warner didn't run. i think they're wrong. mark warner ran he ran for five minutes, but he got close enough to run what we thing that is not align have to defend the sorry, let me the wall street journal, new york times, journalist, and

journalists jobs took about parkinson's specialist that has been part of the white house medical unit that they lied about that depth about it. but part. is that they lie about? just take a pause. it's about the george clooney quite hold on every curry green has repeatedly lied about know she hadn't about in about human about whether you know, they have not this is a white house medical unit doctor who has been part of this since obama, during the obama administration, he visited the white house over 20 times. >> they don't obama had parkinson's. they think you need to catch up on the news tonight. it's all know. i think you know the truth and you've seen this narrative is part of the reason. ai, all of these questions have not been shut out i don't think there's been records because you're saying but there's no question that it's not immediate narrative. 50 million. you don't think that the media has entered reported some media 50

million people watched the president on that debate stage and on the george clooney of it all, george clooney was at this fundraiser. right? and the fundraiser was they raised 28 million. he comes out of it and he thanks. that's something is wrong. and he's goes to write this op-ed. and according to the new york times tonight, the white house tries to stop him. they send jeffrey katzenberg to try to get them to not publish this op-ed another person who was at that fundraiser now comes forward and says the president did not look great that night. so it's not immediate narrative, it's also coming from people who love and respect joe biden. they are just deeply concerned that is true you know, when i did campaigns, who sort of had to say, you talk to the candidate, but you trust the research and right now the research is starting to show that the president has had some trouble showing up at events so now we have to know is, is this

something that happens? how often does this happen is just happened a few times. it doesn't happen a lot of times. this is the challenge of the biden candidacy right now, i think joe biden to keep running for president. but the challenges he's going to have to fight back on this every single day going forward. and i think that's one of the things we've talked to democrats. they're worried, are we trading a problem today for a bigger problem that we might have tomorrow? and that's something that is, i am hearing a lot of and i think as those of us are thinking through this, who support joe biden, we need to see what he's going to be able to do in terms of rionous campaign, talking to people doing the lawn, former interviews during the big the big town hall meetings. those are the things that will give people who are his allies more confidence that he can actually you think you're going to get better? do you think he is likely to perform better over the next six months than he has over the last three weeks. >> he has performed better and every event since the debate than he did at that debate went down by the what he's done about what to say about donald trump has been in florida golfing. we morrow is going to

be a big dei coleman. it's going to be a big day. he's got a big press conference scheduled. it's the tail-end of nato. this is going to be a moment that according to all the reporting everybody is looking at his, his allies, the people who are staying quiet behind the scenes, who some of them according to the reporting are waiting to see a misstep to try to convince biden that he should get out of this race? yeah. look, just think about what we know about age-related decline in general. >> nothing of what i'm about to say is controversial. you get to a certain age. you could have had a great life, great career. you start to have good days and bad days. and then secondly, the decline drops off exponentially. it starts slow and then it gets quicker and quicker and quicker and that's a huge problem because biden would need to be president for four more years, yes. right? you can't have good days and bad days if you're the president and went the same problem for donald because if you don't know some incredibly crazy things that make absolutely no sense, you

haven't seen one of his rallies when he's talking about sharks and batteries and windmills and all sorts of things that you would if it was your father, you would say no. my pfizer leave it there. everybody. thank you very much. coming up next for us, money for joe biden and the democrats is suddenly drawing up a major biden donor will join me on why he is pausing his efforts us new insight reporting tonight that donald trump's team is essentially praying for biden to stay in this race. tim alberta from the atlantic joins me live. this is news plays my check we make go to can you imagine, be remembered like that but we chose the whole

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>> the money is scared, as we mentioned with george clooney, democratic donors are suddenly growing anxious about biden's candidacy. and one source says, major donations are drying up my next guest is among those hitting pause on fundraising efforts for president biden longtime biden supporter and donor john morgan joins me now, john. thank you for joining us tonight. as you know, the calls now for president biden to exit the race, they continue to grow. you were in the process is my understanding of planning a fundraiser for the president at the end of the summer. and now you've pause that effort why is that well, the only reason i've paused it, not ready to go full steam ahead. >> if i can only reason i paused, it is because of the uncertainty of what's going on and all chatter. i had a fundraiser scheduled and conflicted with passover. they were looking for a date either august or september, so i started raising money for. that

fundraiser are paul i got to about 1 million. i paused it and i'm ready to go full throttle if they give me a date and come back, but i'm not going to raise money if there's not going to be a fundraiser here at my home and with this uncertainty, but yeah, john morgan is ready to go full tilt. >> so what are you hearing from donors? i mean, you heard john clooney or george clooneys op-ed in the new york times he just raised millions and millions of dollars for president biden and my understanding is that you're also hearing some anger in the hollywood community and other big source of money. what are the big pockets, the deep pockets saying right now about the state of the democratic race well, i read george, george clooney from kentucky, his dad was a newsman there when i grew up. and i respect him, but his letter basically read that joe biden was

different at his fundraiser. what we didn't hear about that after his fund raiser, we only heard about it after the debate the problem here is the optics from that debate joe biden came in the lighting was poor after the kennedy nixon debate, you thought they would have learned he walked in. he looked pale. he looked out of place i don't even know his makeup was right and so i look at that and then i looked at him the next day in north carolina and it's a totally different guy. i want to know from his advanced team, did they go over there before the debate? did they put him in the camera? did they live with the makeup? you know, how lighting works. but do you have concerns yourself? >> seeing what you've seen and hearing from people who have seen president biden up close in person, not on tv or in-person. do you have concerns that president biden is the person that george clooney described, which in his view, not not fit for another four years.

>> well, george clooney doesn't know that george clooney is not a doctor. look, there's two parts here. one his his legs at two. it's his mind. his legs are shot that's a given his brother came to live in hawaii and the wintertime his brother came out to visit me and i've told him, i said, look, they need to address his walk because he walked stiff legged fry told me he said, look, he has what my dad had a neuropathy in his feet. just tell the people that that's fine. if his legs don't work. now, that's okay. the pope's legs don't work. franklin roosevelt's legs didn't work, but the mine did. steve hawkins legs and buddy didn't work. but the mine did so i'm not concerned about the walk at all. >> i'm just wondering at this stage, given all the uncertainty that you're seeing yourself, that you're hearing from people you're trying to raise money from? do you still believe that president biden is the best chance for democrats to defeat donald trump in

november well, first of all, i'm like nancy pelosi on this. i've followed her everywhere and if joe biden says he is and his family, valerie and his wife, jill says he is. i say is look, think about this they had debate prep all week in camp david, the smartest people in the world were out there. ron klain, jeffrey katzenberg, they're all nobody had a concern. they were there with him for six days. >> how do you know that day still know for sure that none of the red hat on i read it will they let him go on? >> i don't think they had much of a choice. they let him go on i don't i'm not sure at all. you'll have to ask them, but i'm saying if he's that bad one person would say he can't do it one person, not one person said he can't do it. and so i look at that. i don't know. i don't know what i will tell you this in that debate.

when you're getting gaslighted with rapid-fire lies, lies, lies, lies, lies. you become dumbfounded. what's the definition of dumbfounded? gobsmacked your mouth? >> i don't know that that is the last lady have lost. i don't know that that's what you would expect normally from a candidate, but john, i am still curious about what's happening in the donor community right now. is there concern among donors about president biden's ability to beat donald trump that might that is preventing them from wanting to donate to his campaign right now. >> there was concern before the debate because he was behind in the polls but let me tell you what's the alternative? what is the alternative they think they got ahead this little mini convention and that's going to be no way you think that's going to be a peacefully. do you think the vice president is

going to go gently into the good wind if they nominate somebody else to be president vice president, there'll be more friction and fighting over that than joe biden when the biden campaign says he is the only person who can beat donald trump. >> do you think that's true? >> no. i think 50 people could. >> do you think the vice president kamala harris is one of them is the vice president runs if she became the nominee? >> i'm voting for her i think she'd be the best pick know. >> who is the best pick in your view if it came to that andy beshear shapiro, whitmer newsom, pritzker. >> if you just do anything, you go pick the the battleground states, pennsylvania and michigan, whitmer the gun the governor of pennsylvania fascinating john morgan. thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it thank you and

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they spend crafting a campaign against biden could ultimately be a devastating reset of democrats decide to replace him. alberta rights campaigns are usually on guard against peaking too soon. in this case, the risk for trump's team was biden, bottoming out too early joining me now is the author of that atlantic piece, tim alberta, tim thanks for joining us. you've spent six months with the trump campaign that these co managers, susie wiles and chris lacivita, there is some fear narrow that they actually may have succeeded too well in their view, what happens if biden is suddenly not not the nominee you know, it's interesting. >> they will try to tell anyone who listens that. it doesn't matter who they run against that, whether it's kamala harris stepping up or gavin newsom, gretchen whitmer anyone else that those substitute nominees, if you will, that

they would inherit all of joe biden's baggage and that they would be able to effectively attack those demos crowds the same way that they're attacking biden. but that's just not true. and i know that it's not true because i have spent so much time inside the campaign really understanding from deep underneath the hood here, if you will, what the mechanics, what, what the tactics, what the sort of messaging strategies are built around that make this campaign go. and i think it's just really important to emphasize that in almost every way this trump 2024 campaign has been optimized to square off against a very specific opponent they are not, they have not built this campaign with the idea we're going against a generic democrat. they have built all of their campaign around defeating joe biden. and if he were to some first for any reason, not be on the ticket in november, it would represent a

complete and utter sea change for the republican nominee and his campaign. >> yeah. he's a wiles and chris lacivita. they are thought to be very professional campaign managers who changed the way that trump campaigns work. you write this that wiles boasted to me during one conversation that she had been somewhat successful in getting trump to cut back on the rigged election talk on the campaign trail but in that same conversation, she could not answer the question of whether the 2020 election had actually been stolen. this all just seems so incredibly fragile. are they aware that? of that, that donald trump as a candidate is hard to control, especially on that particular issue of whether the election was stolen of course they are. >> and at one 1.1 of them have commented me that, you know, really at the end of the day we don't have any more control over him than anyone else who's been involved in his

past campaigns. and i think that they were probably sent to some degrees selling themselves short from everything. i've seen and everything i've reported. actually, both chris lacivita and susie wiles have been able to rein in donald trump in certain ways. they have been able to get through to him. there's no better example of this abbey than trump's embrace. now of mail voting and absentee voting it at a large scale. this is something where if you go back to 2020, were in the middle of a global pandemic consumer behaviors are shifting dramatically and trump's campaign at the time was pleading with him saying you have to stop railing against this idea of mail voting. there are millions and millions of people who want to vote for you by mail. and trump would not have it. if you fast forward now for years, trump has not only come around rhetorically too embracing mail voting, but he's campaign is building out in very sufficient the k1 customizable apparatus enabling

them to micro target people who are most likely to vote by mail and make sure that they that message those people in a way that they were never doing four years ago, nevermind eight years ago. so we are seeing a much more sophisticated operations that meanwhile, you have this interesting now get in there about his gripes with the previous rnc chairwoman who wanted to have a big ground game and he wanted to have election integrity efforts. that's what he wants. the rnc's money to be spent on. what do you think is the impact of that at the end of the day for this race? >> so it's really interesting the kind of overarching theory of the trump people is that they are going to demolish joe biden, that this is not going to be a close election and therefore, they don't need they at the top take it any way. they do not need a robust ground game. now, obviously, there are a couple of holes to

poke him that one of them being from local republicans on the ground running congressional races, senate races, governors races. and they're saying, well, hold on a second. we need a ground game right down the ballot donald trump, however, he recognizes abby that there's only so much money to go around. his legal fees have chewed up between 25 and 33% of all the donor cash that's coming to the campaign and he has made it clear from the outset that he wants a massive, like an unprecedented nationwide election integrity operation to protect the vote and to have eyeballs on every precinct, every every dropbox. and that is going to cost an enormous amount of money. in fact, abby, i've had several people suggests to me that this election integrity program is going to cost every bit as much as the orange seas nationwide ground game would have cost. so there are only so many dollars to go around and clearly, that is the priority for trump. >> it clearly as tim. i want

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head at when it comes to the choices that he faces so abby, from everything i've gathered here over the last several months in talking with people who are very close to the former president and who are obviously involved in this process. >> there are really two paths that he has considered going down here. the one path is to sort of select a caretaker, if you will, someone who is older, someone who is certainly has less star power or someone who's not going to overshadow him or compete for attention with him. and the thought they're being that once he serves his term, if he wins, then he would be able to play kingmaker as the next-generation competes to inherit the throne, the second path, obviously is picking the next-generation himself, picking an heir apparent to sort of assume the maga mantle we'll after he has gone and for much of the last six months, eddie, all of the

thinking around trump world has been focused on the first option about around picking that caretaker, perhaps a doug burgum type candidate from everything i've learned in the last several weeks it is actually now very much leaning in the opposite direction that the trump himself is very much warmed up to the idea of picking his apprentice, if you will, picking that next generation of maga leader. so that's something to keep an eye on that is fascinating reporting. tim alberta. thank you very much for being hey, here we appreciate it you're welcome and i had on laura coates live, see what happened in the opening statements for the alec baldwin manslaughter trial? >> july, 21, a special how would really happen when it blanche's? the celebration turned deadly. the fbi searched for answers and all the wrong places that are being remembered as a hero. he is

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