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took place in butler, pennsylvania last night where one person was killed, three more were wounded, including, of course, the former president of the united states. >> each of them has a family that was impacted by the violence violence that will stay with them forever. the former first lady, melania trump put it this way in a letter to the nation today, sharing how her and barron trump's life as she put it, were quote, on the brink of a devastating change. she wrote that her husband's passion, laughter, and annuity, love of music and inspiration were almost taken away by violent bullet tonight, the families of three other men who were at that rally are also permanently changed. david dutch, and james copenhagen were both shot and are now in stable condition. thankfully, tonight, after being critically injured at that rally were told that both are resting at hospitals with scars, both physical and

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emotional that will last longer further than any presidential election. and the wife and the daughters of query comparator are mourning the loss of their girl dad tonight as a fighter, cory earned the title hero. but it was his last act that may have been his most heroic korea's family says that he dove on to them to protect them from the bullets that ultimately took his own life. a gofundme page has been set up for his family and for the others who are impacted. and our prayers are to there tonight for a full recovery for both david and james but also for korea's family or condolences may his memory be a blessing? thank you all so much for joining us here on the source live from milwaukee, cnn newsnight with abby phillip starts now donald trump's first interview since surviving an assassination attempt, that's tonight on newsnight good

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evening. >> i'm abby phillip in milwaukee, wisconsin and just a few moments, i'm going to speak with the reporter who just talked with the former president. but first, here is what we know at this hour. president biden, using the backdrop of the oval office to deliver a prime sometimes speech, calling for unity and calling on all americans to abandon the escalating rhetoric that nearly ended with donald trump's assassination. >> we debate and disagree. we compare and contrast the character the candidates but records of the issues in the agenda and a vision for america but in america, we resolve our differences at the ballot box that's how we do at the ballot box, not with bullets. the power to change america should always rest in the hands of the people not in the hands of

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would be assassin the fbi is now investigating the shooting at a trump rally as a domestic terror attack and they are scouring the social media for clues about the 20-year-old shooter's motive. >> in a campaign season that has been marked by twists and turns this is the darkest one yet, not for the first time, we have descended toward violence and it could have ended with one of the two major party presumptive nominee his dead the investigation is all very much ongoing audio analysis has confirmed that the suspect, the gunman, was perched about 130 yards from the podium where trump was speaking in butler the other ongoing effort tonight is to assess just how the secret service failed to so dramatically in this moment to stop this threat, the president already says he's directed an independent review of what went

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wrong on saturday's rally but we're going to get to the latest on that investigation in just a few moments. but first, just in to cnn tonight, we are learning that the former president has now given his very first interview since surviving this attempt on his life to salena zito of the washington examiner. she just spoke with trump and she was at this event just feet away. selina. thank you very much for joining us. we're really glad and grateful that you're okay tell us about this interview. what did the former president tell you tonight? >> well, it's really interesting. i was just a few feet away from him along with my daughter who is a photo journalist. and he was aware of that because i was supposed to go to fly to bedminster with him after the rally to do an interview with and so he called me this morning. and or this afternoon and said, and when

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did you know if myself and my daughter row okay. so that's that's how the conversation started and then that asked him if i could interview them, just talked to him about those moments and about how this changed him and that's when he said, well, i was going to do a speech that was going to be a real humdinger. i think that's exact words but, you know, everything changed in that moment. and abby, you have covered his his events before. when you when you watch him at a rally, he always looks forward always looks forward. he never looks to his right are to his left and he he had put the screen up of the showed a chart also never does charts. and he looked to his right something he never does. and as he looked to his right that the

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bullet grazed right past his face. and i was standing right there when it happened and he said in that moment he understood that everything had changed for the country and for himself what is the speech going to be about now i imagine that the rnc was supposed to be both a celebratory event, but also a time to make the case against him opponent what what did he tell you? >> he is going to focus on now he said he was going to focus on bringing the country back together. >> he thought that it was very, very important than in that moment when that happens, you can he understood this is what he was he what he wants to do, what he's supposed to do? and. he talked a lot about when he stood up and there's that sort of iconic moment when he puts his fist job and he told me that he really wanted to project to people. is that it wasn't about him at that

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moment. he wanted to reject it as people and he says he loves these people and they are the bad but this is a rust belt area, this is a blue collar white working class mostly crowd and he wanted to project to keep that it was important to project to the country in that moment that everything was okay. that he was okay in the country was okay. and i thought that was i thought that was really fascinating and he was in a very good mood. he was, he sounded incredibly upbeat of these moments have a way of changing people just one centimeter different and we would not, we would have him be talking about a much, much different story today what about what the last couple of hours, last 24 hours has been like for the former president should get a sense of what's his lifelike, who is he being

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surrounded by? >> what has he been doing? and how has he been coping with that life-changing moment that you just described? >> well, he said he's been taking phone calls and talking to people of all different political stripes have all different stations in life and people are talking to him. of course, making sure that he's okay so i think that he's feeding off of that positive sort of feedback from people i mean, i didn't ask him who he was with, but he was as i was interviewing him, he was getting ready to leave bedminster and go to milwaukee. something he wasn't initially going to do, but decided i'm not going to let anything change me. i need to be there. i'm supposed to be their ongoing there you know, selina you've talked to trump a lot. >> you've been around him, you've been to so many of these rallies trump is but i

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think by its very nature of a pretty defiant personality, do you get the sense that when he talks about unity that that is a change for him. do you feel like it's something that he really means or is it something that could fade as the days goes on between? now and when he's expected to give a speech well, i think he would argue him that he does unify people that he does bring together people in the way that he, in particular, in the way that he talks about people from the great lakes thanks midwest, who he feels have and he believes have been very disconnected from the process, sort of not really engaged, just sort of mechanically voted, but because of the way he talks about the dignity of work, way he talks about the working class, and the way he he tries to project

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this sort of part of something bigger than yourself that, that he has has electrified them. >> and so he believes that is unity i mean, i can't speak for what's inside his head, but based on conversations would that i have had with him i think that he believes that that's very important. and from his perspective, he has done a good job of unifying people and his coalition is growing. we can deny that that's happening i think what i'm asking really, i mean, this is the same person who often talks about retribution, about his political enemies, about the other side of the aisle do you think he's going to drop that rhetoric? >> is that the sense that you got from what he told you i got the sense that he believed that he should unify what that looks like. >> i obviously don't know. i

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think both sides be really great if we weren't so harsh with each other and in harsh is even a mild word to describe some of the ways that we speak to each other and the way we talk to each other and the way politicians talk of. but, you know, i can't get inside his head, but i in that moment, i believed that this is very important to him all right. >> we'll see what he ends up doing. salena zito with the exclusive tonight, the very first interview with the former president donald trump. after this assassination attempt. thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you and cnn's whitney wild is with us now with the latest on the investigation into the shooter's motive, whitney, what are you learning tonight? well abby, the motivation here is still very

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much unclear what the fbi has made very clear though, is that they do believe this was an attempted assassination. they are investigating this as potential domestic terrorism, but as they go through and they are trying to access the shooter cell phone because they really believed that that is going to be pretty critical. understandably. so into understanding the shooters mindset. so right now they have the device they're working to try to get into it. but as far as a motive that captures the totality of why this person did this. that is still unclear what the fbi is saying is that at this moment they are working to determine the sequence of events and the shooter's movements prior to this incident? and they have again obtained the cell phone. they have searched the residents. they have searched his vehicle upon those searches, they found that there were suspicious devices. we have previously reported that there was explosive material found at the shooter's home, as well as in his vehicle. those devices are now being analyzed at the fbi lab at quantico but all of this comes abby, as there are very serious questions for the secret service about how this

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happened and what we know is that the building where the shooter was able to get his shot was outside the security perimeter was around 150 yards from the former president's podium and several law enforcement sources. i have spoken okay. and with have expressed a real concern that a building that close. was outside the hard perimeter. so the question here, abby becomes, was a member of law enforcement supposed to be stationed at that building or did the secret service determined through a site assessment that that building didn't pose a risk either way. this was a major failure and there are serious questions for the secret service. we have not seen anybody go on camera to take those questions from the press or that we have gone back and forth with spokespeople from that agency and we've gotten a little bit out of them. but there are still major questions that they need to answer for abby absolutely. whitney wild. thank you very much for that reporting. and law enforcement officials are also piecing together the gunman's motive movements around the shooting cnn's brian todd has more on that. brian,

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tell us more abby, we have new information on the shooter's movements during and just before the shooting. we do know that he was approximately 150 meters away from where donald trump was speaking. when he opened fire. that's less than 500 feet away from the former president. also, according to the sheriff of butler county, michael slope, law enforcement officers saw him on the roof short shortly before the shooting. one law enforcement officer hoisted himself up to the ledge of the rooftop, saw the gunman the gunman saw him according to the sheriff, pointed his weapon at the officer and at that point, the officer her had to a drop-down here for his own safety. the shooter then started opening fire on those positions. also, we're told from a witness, according to a witness, ben macer i'm told talk to cnn affiliate kdka, the shooter was seen moving. he saw the shooter moving from roof to roof to roof. it had to have been these rooves right here. these buildings all attached so one witness seeing him moving from roof to roof to roof before we finally took a position right about there, abby brian, todd.

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thank you very much for that. and joining mean now is retired secret service agent, who has been on the security detail for president trump, president obama, paul at cloth, and also with us former cia counterterrorism official and former fbi intelligence advisor, phil mudd paul, i want to start with you you've worked on open-air trump rallies exactly like this one, this gunman was somehow able to get onto a roof with a weapon just a few hundred feet from the stage, who was responsible for the failure to secure that area? >> well campaign events are far different from presidential events i was on both the trump campaign and the trump presidency in the secret service. these events are chaotic. they're small, and we'll have a former president. this building outside this hearing, the perimeter was clearly it was advanced. this person on the roof was identified the counter sniper, when they identified the threat, they neutralized it

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within a second, and the agents responded as they are trained and covered and shielded the president to save his life. the president is alive to former president is alive today because of the actions of the secret service, i will not engage in questioning the agents, officers, technicians, and other specialists who were on the ground. what i was not there we're learning that a local law enforcement officer did see the gunman on that roof just before the shots were fired, but he dropped back down from the roof after the gunman pointed his weapon at him when you hear that and you see the videos that we've seen, what do you think should have happened in those critical moments perhaps before the gunman was able to fire his first shots toward president trump here's an interesting point in a lot of the questions, while legitimate come from a misunderstanding of law enforcement and certainly the complexities busy executive protection in a country like american, a small campaign event local law enforcement is

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trained to seek cover during gunfire, secret service agents are trained that they are the cover which is why you saw the agents respond immediately to the stage and shield the former president's bodies with their own behind the still on the stage i believe that that officers actions spurred the shooter potentially to move more quickly than he wished, which put him into the view of the counter snipers. and when he was identified as a threat by that interview, that technician he was neutralized. there are questions as to why the secret service did not move the former president off the stage more quickly. and i would simply say that what you saw was a peaceful, even joyous event. i've been in their chaotic their loud people are enjoying themselves and it went to an active shooter situation. within milliseconds within a second began was fired, but those agents have to assess the situation and they have to decide whether it is safe to evacuate the president into that environment one shooter is down. what you don't want to be flushed from one dangerous situation into another. further

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assessments were done. i've seen a transcript of the radio operations and it appeared that it was a textbook response and brilliant work by those men and women of the secret service on the ground yesterday phil, what do you make of all of that what i what i think the first question i have as i'm sorry, as someone who has investigated for a lot of what i did at the fbi and the cia is what were the protocols? so it's not just what happened. what are the rules of engagement for the locals and for the secret service? were those protocols adhere to if they were clearly, you'd say then why would do not have had that building under observation if they weren't adhered to, you'd say, well, who's responsible for that, but my first question isn't just what happened. it's what it's what were the rules of engagement when the secret service clear the facility initially and were they adhere to and we don't know i don't know the answer to that. >> paula. we still haven't heard from the secret service director, kimberly cheatle. do you think we should hear

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directly from the united states secret service on camera at such a critical moment for the country i'd like to say to the secret service has a one voice policy and it is not mine. i don't i don't pretend to speak for them, but i can speak from them. the secret service performed exemplary fashion yesterday, but they do have a national special security event beginning right now in milwaukee they have protective events and they have thousands a year. i am sure that you'll hear from them when the time is right, but the rush to judgment and action quickly are speaking before the facts are known, could be counterproductive because i think we're finding that every hour we're learning something new i mean, to what we've seen is changing by the minute. and i know that they will have an intelligent response when there's more information phil. a lot of people are also wondering, i mean, as this fbi investigation is ongoing why there hasn't been an update on the gunman's motivations. i know that one of the key parts probably to figuring that out is going to

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be getting into that device that they've taken now to quantico, what are law enforcement looking for in this moment to try to pinpoint what moved this individual to take this step and carry out this assassination attempt? >> well, i understand that the media wants answers and there's 330 million americans who want answers. if i were christopher wray, the experienced fbi director, i would never have spoken today. also, if i were the secret service director, i wouldn't have spoken today. the reason is that if you come out with information that's incorrect, you will be vilified. if you delay for a day or two people, we'll forget that delay in a week in that day or two, and i would expect you to see a statement abbe tomorrow or tuesday in that day or two, you're going to continue the interviews of family and friends. you're going to look at, as you mentioned, devices that went to quantico, things like phones and laptops, you would have done the review of what you got in the physical search of the home, you can do things like look at google

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searches of the individual and see if he was searching trump rallies i'm going to tell you from the inside that they already that is the fbi, the feds have a decent picture, probably not certainly, but probably what, of what motivation was. but another day or two we'll give them a lot more clarity so that they don't go out and speak and realize a day or two later that they were wrong yeah. i mean, i think a false information in this environment can be incredibly dangerous paul la phena, phil mudd. thank you both very much for joining us tonight. >> thanks. >> thank. you and at a press conference in milwaukee today, the secret service did say that there are no changes to the security plans for the republican national convention? this is a national special security event that designation is the highest level of security designation but that the federal government can determine so we are confidently in these security plans that are in place for this event, and we're ready to go. it's been an 18 month process. it's

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the we've worked together over that 18 months to develop well operational security plans for any and all aspects of security related to this event 20 me now is the mayor of milwaukee cavalier johnson, mayor. >> thank you very much for joining us on the show. are you confident in this moment that the city of milwaukee is secure and safe for this convention this week yes abby, thank you. and yes, i am i have confidence in the secret service. i have confidence certainly in the milwaukee police department, as was mentioned, we've worked at this for some 18 months now, some 18 months. and milwaukee is designated a national special safety or security events. so this is the highest designation, even higher. so than what we saw in pennsylvania, just the other day. >> and so people who are wondering, how can you not change security plans? how can you not escalate it even from their what's your answer to that? well, again, this is the highest level that you can possibly get. in terms of the designation that we have for the republican national

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convention. i'll go on to say that many month before the incident happened in pennsylvania, that by the way, was horrific, it should have never happened. it shouldn't happen to kids go into schools. they shouldn't happen to churchgoers. are folks going to the grocery store and it shouldn't happen to somebody running for president as dates. but many months ago, myself and several other partners worked in a bipartisan fashion in order to bring additional resources to bear for this convention. so if they had been stuck at $50 million in years past, we work with congress members in both the house and the senate, republicans and democrats to get $75 billion for our public safety efforts here so the milwaukee journal sentinel is reporting that governor evers he wants the secret service to reconsider the decision to allow firearms in the soft perimeter, not the hard perimeter at the software. >> a little further out of the convention that doesn't seem to be going anywhere. do you think that's a mistake? >> i don't think that's a secret service issue. i think that's a state of wisconsin issue even in the city

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milwaukee, we would have taken up the opportunity to have some more restrictions on the outside. in fact our city council locally and i signed off on this is mayor outlawed certain hard objects come from coming into the outer perimeter or are the soft perimeter, unfortunately, because of state law, we are not able to enact harsher or i'm sorry more restrictions for individuals who may decide to carry guns. that's a state law issue. local ordinance does not supersede state law. instead of wisconsin ten, nothing can be gone unless alleged be done, unless the legislator does it? correct. all right. a mayor cavalier johnson. thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it and we all hope for the best for the city of milwaukee i think it plays. thank you very much and up next, we have new reporting now on how the rnc speakers are right now, changing their speeches plus, i'll speak live with a doctor sure. who was at that rally and he tried to save the life of a man who died, stay with us prompt date is

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convention. the event as plan would have drawn a stark contrast with what republicans advertise as joe biden's dystopian america. but now in a new interview you trump is promising to change the tone and the tenor of the entire week and focus on american unity in light of this assassination attempt that nearly claimed his life joining me now is haley barbour. he is the former republican governor of mississippi and the former chairman of the republican national committee governor. thank you for being here. donald trump now says he's going to focus on unity in his speech this week as opposed to on joe biden what do you make of that? i mean, i'm curious whether you think that the delegates in this room that's what they want to hear. or do they want the red meat against? >> i'll think it's common sensical for him to want to focus on unity. i mean, we've been at a terrifically divisive

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state. both parties talk bad about each other i hope. i'm trump i'm a fresh material. and i believe he survived by god's grace what boy did was unbelievable but he survived. and that his attitude, nios having survived, got evan, let me live to do this i'm going to try to do it the right way and i do think the right way is to make the campaign about policy, about issues about the border, about taxes. but national security, instead of talk bad about one another, ai i believe trump, when he says that, and i think it's the right thing for him to say because this is incredibly, incredibly important election and the differences between the two parties on policy, on taxes and

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spending and the border and crime or so great that the american people need to hear that. hear each party justify why this is our position. yeah. >> we also heard from president biden tonight from the oval office. he also had the same message. do you think he struck the right tone? >> well, didn't see it. but if he said that this out to make this about policy and about issues and about differences between us and not about disliking each other and say, and so, and so's a crook and so and so's the enemy of democracy i think the american people would much, much, much rather have that be the campaign between the two parties. and so i hope both of them proved to be truthful down down the line here beyond the two candidates at the top, you got others, senator jd vance, he's rumored to be a vice presidential contender. he tweeted out the central premise of the biden campaign is that

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donald trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs. that rhetoric led directly to president trump's attempted assassination. and then you have congressman mike collins tweeting joe biden sent the orders it seems like there is appetite among some republicans to actually blame democrats and blame the other side. and even suggest falsely that this was ordered well, i have no belief that it was ordered, but clearly the atmosphere in the country has become divisive let's show him forget that it wasn't too many years ago that the sec number two guy and the republican party in the house of representatives but man tried to murder him at about ten other republicans on a baseball field. >> do you remember that steve scalise? i am certainly do. there are people that respond this for speaker pelosi didn't even more recently, her husband act with i guess what

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indefensible, but the down the line among rank and file republicans, trump has been giving them a message of you know, retribution. >> we're going to purge the government of our enemies. are they going to accept from him this change of tone? >> i think most republican voters who are for trump and most independents in new are not necessarily republicans already believe that trump is going to try to make this about how we make america great again and he doesn't say that lightly because he looks at what we've done in foreign policy, look at the iranians, look at iraq, amina ukraine look at the border more than 10 million people by almost every estimate, had illegally entered the united states since biden has been president. and he hadn't done anything to stop it so the people that think that the election is going to be about issues like that i hope they're right. that's what they deserve. so they can

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pick, hear the results we want on taxes. and so on. >> let's see what they what we hear from all the speakers, including the former president, former governor haley barbour. thank you very much for joining us tonight. thank you. thank you, abby we are getting some breaking news right now. donald trump underwent a precautionary ct scan after the attempt on his life this weekend that scan did come back clear. we learning and also next, i'm going to speak with a doctor who was at that that rally when the shooting happened, he sprang into action to try to save the victim. that's next blumenau whitening strips no peroxide, no pain. >> i can use them every day if i want. what i want drink what i want, profit aluminium, strip ben. hello my smile is back on easy let me introduce you to class 500, the two it is an easy to use trading app that

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wife and his two daughters when the shots rang out, he dove on top of them to protect them from the gunfire. tragically, he was struck and was fatally wounded my next guest is a retired emergency room doctor who immediately jumped into action and attempted to administer cpr until state troopers arrived dr. jim sweet land joins me now, doctor. thank you very much for being here tonight. and thank you for your heroic actions on saturday night. can you walk us through what happened, what you were thinking when you first heard those gunshots i was in the bandstand. >> be behind president trump on the left side of your looking at the stage i heard the shots. he was actually facing looking up at the jumbotron i heard the shots ring out. there were three pop, pop pop. at first, i thought there were firecrackers and then i was followed by three to four second plaz and

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another for plops pop, pop, pop. and i liked the audience turned to the right where i could hear the shots being fired the ident entered back to stage to see the secret service forming a human career on president trump and so rapidly he was entirely covered by the time i turned back, which is matter of seconds i then heard a woman's voice crap. he's been shot he's down and i went into muscle memory of mercy physician that's what we do. and oh, i remember is going to where he was down fortunately, everybody was sheltering and so i could get to him fairly really quickly i was there

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within 45 seconds of the shots ringing out and already an individual was applying pressure to his wound. unfortunately, i found out though firefighters named corey and he was struck behind his right ear and the wound to go quite severe i did what. i, always do want to come on as and i'm a doctor i got the response which was really okay. and i said i am ed doctor this man is where paul's. it has not breathing helped me get them up onto the bench corps body unfortunately, was wedged between the fourth and fifth benches on that stand and i two individuals who were scared then there was blood and there was brain matter at the scene and these people were courageous enough to get up and helped me get coy back on the

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bench. so that i can perform cpr on him and all the while someone assist to be by putting pressure on that i saw him cpr by giving him rescue respirations i did chest compressions for about two minutes until it was tapped on the shoulder by a pennsylvania state trooper and he and another trooper, the biggest troopers i've ever seen korea up like a rag doll. and got him off. that stand as quickly as i've ever seen anybody be alongside medical cool. they were braid and they moved him as quickly as you could and he got them on to a stretcher and aufully well, i looked up to see coy's wife and daughter looked me looking at me and the look on their faces, something

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on what will forget it was then looking at someone that they loved, who is extremely sick near death and they had a look that they want something to be said. what was going on, and what this was all communicated just by probably linked and i blurred out to them or he's going to go to a place where you can get all and i won't say that's all the comfort i could give them i've not talked to that family i hope and pray that the rooms could be healed i know corps let's be aligned. daughters and i know he will be sorely missed. i do wish to save them if they're listening tonight your father died a hero you have seen so much as an emergency room physician.

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>> but this is different. and you were standing just feet away from a man's family, a man who did not make it how how are you handling all of that? how has it changed to you i'll never forget the look on that. >> families face. i do want to say as i exited and i walked away somebody from cbs said the blood on your webpack. are you heard and i said, no, i was assisting. we are sensitization i didn't know that the individual was cory. i didn't know that he was a firefighter and they looked at me and i did the interview and when i was done with the interview if you look at it, my wife's wearing a cowboy hat. she's on the right side of the screen and then there's a combat veteran to the left side outside of the view of the screen and as soon

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as that interview was finished, he came to me, said, brother, whose blood on your face? bruce underwater, we can wash your face off with washington along with what was on my shirt. best auclub, handed the water ball back to him and he leaned into me and said rather are, you okay i looked at both the brim of this was hat and it said retired army combat veteran and i said, rather i'm okay and you've seen this and he said, yes, i have and we have each other that was a matter of moments i'm very sorry yeah. >> i could just say that was an another american reaching out to help me after i tried to count cory and to me that's

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what americans all it really is you. and that man represent the best of us dr. jim sweet lynne. thank you very much for your heroism in that moment. and thank you for joining us tonight thank you. we'll be back in a moment prompting is july 60 and 17th where all these deals could be more to making this dalian to be making the membrane. >> you won't reshape it yeah. it's dark. thank you that colonoscopy for getting screens while i'm delaying, i heard i had a choice. i know the name. that's what i'm saying. gardi cologuard. >> cologuard screened for colon cancer at home like you want,

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heads to prevail in american politics after saturday's assassination attempt on former president trump for more, i want to bring in my panel here in milwaukee a kate, this assassination attempt. >> no question about it. it has up ended. this presidential cycle and we've been talking about the horror that we witnessed, but, but we are in the middle of a campaign everybody is talking about this quote in axios tonight from someone that they are describing as a senior house democrat he told axios, we've all resigned ourselves to a second. trump presidency i cannot imagine that is going over well, at the white house or in delaware well, i would imagine it's not, but it also doesn't reflect how the majority of democrats are thinking about this moment in the race. so if this person believes that there's no point in waging the next three months of the campaign, and i don't know what to say to them. maybe they should step down, maybe they should resign, maybe they put their name on it if they feel that strongly, but look, that doesn't reflect where most democrats are as they're

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thinking about what has to happen over the next 3.5 months of this campaign. i think, look, you saw president biden tonight deliver a speech that i think really met the moment in terms of urging americans to take the temperature down, but also laying out that of course we have policy differences of course we can discuss those differences in a way that doesn't lead to personal attacks or violence. and i think hearing that message from him tonight, i think was a good thing for people all across this country, people who maybe haven't even really tuned into the race, except for the horrific event that happened over the weekend that has people looking around and saying, where are we as a country right now. and i think his leadership was really on display tonight in a way that, you know, that i think was important in this moment. and this is our third time hearing from president biden in the last couple of days since saturday the country is looking at him too. i mean, this is a major leadership moment. for any american president, but especially an american

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president who's had the last two weeks that he is. yeah, i think this was important for biden as a reset. we don't want to think about these moments as i can strictly political, but i do think president biden is comfortable and his role is kind of uniter and chief. this is what the premise of his campaign was. this is his core belief about kind of appealing to better angels those an american politics. and i think you've seen that reflected here, but i don't think it quells necessarily the political questions that were open going forward for him, but it definitely takes the temperature down that we saw on capitol hill. i think it adds a sense of stakes and realness. to this race that may cause democrats to go in a different direction than the dam breaking that we saw of the last week-and-a-half but the core problem that biden was facing going into this weekend is still there, but i definitely think is not top of mind anymore. and so, you know, it's tough because i don't think that this should be saying to that political lens, but it is a reality of a campaign where it has been up, ended by the tragic event. yeah, i mean, it look the democrats, the biden campaign, they've already said they've popped asked ads. >> they're taking this day by day, but marc, you've been

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reporting about what's going to go on behind us here at the rnc what are they going to do? i mean, selina told us trump wants to have a message of unity. i'm wondering about everybody else on that stage. >> well, that's a good question. number one, we have to see if the leopard is going to change a spots because donald trump is not known as a uniter, but he is now portraying himself as that he's about to pick his running mate tomorrow of the guy that's favored most and maga bill is jd vance and he's done nothing but sounds sort of divisive about this. and that might be kind of a classic idea that a presidential candidate and a running mate have, which is you have the attack dog, who is the running mate, and then you have the uniter, which has donald trump. i'm not sure it's going to work, but that's what he's going to try to do. and if you think about what's bad for biden here is that the best news forum in two weeks? is that his opponent almost got assassinated like it, wipe that off of the mat for awhile. and that's how tough a position biden is in when you put it that way. i mean, it is, it is first of

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all, for the country that's just a really horrible set of facts that you just laid out there. but david, look i do you think the leopard can change his spots here? does he have to to have credibility as a uniter and doesn't have to last longer than, an hour on the stage i think it's incumbent upon all, not just the president's, but the entire political class. frankly, the press and pundits included and the public at large, we all have to do better and bring the tone down on this thing. but when he talked about the fundamentals of this race, and i do want to go back to that a little bit. not to be crass, but going into the debate this was a erase it was donald trump's to lose after the debate. he had essentially want it. and i think as we enter the stage here this week and republicans come in a united fashion that nobody expected even three days ago. he comes in here leading every metric that you'd want in the closing stretch of a campaign, every battleground state leading nationally, leading financially. and now he's

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leading in a position of strength then i think you're going to see a tone and tenor of all republicans coming in here that express his confidence, strength, and hopefully a unifying message about their vision going forward. and if we do that, we're going to win, not just the white house, we're going to win control congress wonder what you think about that. >> i think that republicans would be wise to take the opportunity of the next few days and realize that this convention can not just be about firing up your base, the republican base is fired up. the republican base is unified behind donald trump loves him and wants to see him win. that's not what you need to do at this convention. sometimes it is sometimes you need to use the convention to bring everyone together. that's not what's needed now what's needed now is to speak to those voters who don't love donald trump. they don't love the options of in front of them, but they're going to have to make a choice in november. they're paying attention and they want to see, can donald trump be someone who i can credibly see back in the white house who will bring some form of stability to my life. in 2016, donald trump was elected because people wanted a wrecking ball and then they got some taste of it and they said

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maybe that was a little too much wrecking ball and he ran against joe biden, who ran on a campaign of i'm going to be a unifier. you're not going to have to worry about me as president the trouble biden is running into, is that as president, people do not feel like things have stabilized. they do not feel like we have they do not feel like they got those things that they were sold and that is what has made this enormous opening for donald trump to come back yeah. >> i mean, doesn't assassination attempt the against a political opponent exactly. as she said, it doesn't reinforce to voters that the country is not unified. the country has not been brought together and president biden is the president when this is happening. >> well, no. i mean, look, i think that's we don't know the motive of this shooter. we don't know his background. we don't know that he was politically connected. i think most americans look at this situation and see rightly a horrific act of political violence. i don't think that they immediately take that to this is somehow joe biden's fault. and i think in fact, what you saw tonight from

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president biden was you. know a discussion, a sense of leadership in a space that is a strength for him. now, kristen's right, obviously i don't think anybody would dispute that he has work to do between now and november. if you look at the publicly available polling, but if the race is a question of who can lead on this issue of bringing us together? who can put forward a message that appeals to people across political divides that's a space that joe biden is quite comfortable in and where i think his leadership can really, really shines. so, you know, i would never, i i'm hesitant to talk about it as i know, we all are. i'm hesitant to talk about what happened over the weekend and a political lens, but but i think that that's i think that that is a base where people will hear the best of joe biden. and so it will be interesting to see what donald trump in the republicans do as a contrast that joe biden would take a election that's about the terms of unification. that's where he feels this is most comfortable. and i also say, i don't think that we should see this as an isolated event. violence has already become normalized in our

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politics. we think about tree life, el paso shooting police shooting, but the attack on paul pelosi, we think all of those all luckily, our our have been consistent over the last four or five years. i do think we have an american public that does not see this in isolation, but sees this as a reflection of a growing partisan polarization divide in our politics. now, how is that expressed in this election? i don't know, like that doesn't necessarily mean that they leads them to one candidate or the other. but i do think there is a growing sense that the political rhetoric and the political system is not serving the best interests of people. and i do think these moments of division, violence that type of heated rhetoric reinforces that for a lot of people in mark, you mentioned jd vance, but i mean, he really kind of he threw a match into the tinderbox here of this whole situation immediately after it happened. i mean that to me was just a signifier that there are a lot of people. i mean, i see it on the right happening right now. they do not want to hear unity they want to say this is

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the other side's fault. >> well, that's what trump is trying to argue here is that he can kind of do both. i'm not again, shore. he's going to be able to do it. but what vance was expressing was this like deep anger? yeah. point that republicans have, however, anyone who spent time on social media and try to comment at all or say anything about the shooting that happened on saturday, learned that also on the left, there is a strong belief that this thing was a hoax, which is insane. i don't understand how any candidate can bridge those two divides, but what biden has now two, i wouldn't say his credit is no one's calling in his own party anymore for him to really step down that has quelled. and now the debate is between these two men, whether they can unify the country or not. i don't know if anyone that's where do you kristen, is there room for trump to grow and has always the question with him or is he just going to solidify his base? >> i think that there is room for him to grow in so far >> our as they're in the last

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